First - the sections. split down quite similar lines to the UK sections, but the first section pretty much incorporates beavers and cubs together. So from 6-10 years old is the Menadas, the equivalent of our cub scouts (Menada means cub in espanol).The next section up is the Tropa , or Troop, from ages 11-14, pretty much the same as our Scouts. Up next is the equivalent of our Explorer Scouts, the Caminantes, or Pioneers, ages 14-18. Once you graduate from the Caminantes, you have the Clan de Rovers, (the Rover Clan) who correspond with our Scout Network, but only go from ages 18-22. After the ages of 22 you become a Scouter, or a Scout Leader. This means that, at 23, I should technically be a scouter.
It was just a bit unfortunate that the rovers adopted me first! |
There's quite a bit more pageantry surrounding the scouts that I've seen so far; on the camp, each group had their own banner to mark their area, and the individual patrols in the different Tropas all had made their own flags, so when they all formed up they really looked quite good! Each section also has their own chants (which I won't pretend to have remembered or understood), which made it quite hard for the county commissioner to get everyone's attention when trying to close the camp! Its something that I think we could do a bit more in the UK, it was quite apparent that the kids were getting into the spirit of things quite a lot more thanks to all the chanting and the jumping and the flags. In fact, especially with the Menadas, the leaders really struck me as being tremendously excited about what they were doing there; they were certainly jumping around enough!
As for the programme, the only section I can talk about is the Clan de Rovers; while on camp I attended a four hour forum about their community service projects (surprisingly, it wasn't boring, despite being in Espanol!) It seems that the rovers here include, as part of their programme, various service projects which they conceive of, organise and run. Suggestions at the forum included beach cleaning, painting the bottoms of trees to prevent ants from destroying them, and other things which I didn't get time to ask about as I was whisked away by an avid badge collector to talk about badges. But the idea struck me as one that we could use in the UK - how big a part of community service is Scouting, these days? We have our resurrected version of bob a job week, but certainly for groups in my area, this is about it. And it’s certainly true that one of the reasons Network doesn’t work that well in many places is a lack of focus. What if we incorporated these service projects into our programme for network, and so gave them something to base their programme around? Of course they would do other things, but making a difference in their local community might give them a bit of focus – and, of course, help the community, which is one of the things Scouting was originally built around! Because the planning and organising are all part of the process too, you can try literally any project you want – arranging it with the local council, getting paperwork; all these are part of the challenge!
So there you have it. No doubt I will add more as I go, but right now I need to send some more couchsurfing requests and pack for Merida and the 38 degree heat they were talking about on the TV earlier. Wish me luck!
Agreed - certainly they seem based more on the 'Rover Crews' that your grandfather has talked about. They (as far as I can remember) were formed with service especially in mind. You didn't mention btw that the comment someone had added to the above photo translated as 'Toothbrush', which struck us as quite funny here.
ReplyDeleteHaha I hadn't noticed that till now! I think he's referring to the fact that we look a bit like a toothbrush!
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How far do the similarities go? Do they have similar Promise and Law? Is the (predominant?) Catholic Church a big influence?
What training awards do they have? Do they have the Wood Badge and if so, are they members of the 1st Gilwell Park Scout Group?
Just some ideas this avid reader would like to hear about in future blogs!
Keep up the good work.
Are you on your second pair of underpants yet?
See the post from John Dunbar below for answers to G's questions! Given that a significant majority of Mexicans are Catholic, I imagine that there is some influence, though from what John says I doubt it's at a policy level, more in terms of what church services you attend (I attended one... on a Wednesday, of all things!)
DeleteAnd Mum... I am on my second pair of pants today! Wait... that came out wrong... so to speak... aargh!
Promise and Law are very similar to those around the world, Scout Groups are open to any Religion, nobody is excluded because of their faith, and leaders of sections (indifferent to their own personal beliefs) are asked to see that members of their section follow their own faith and practice it.
ReplyDeleteYes Wood badge training is required by all Adults in Mexican scouting, courses are given in every province (county) continually, when a leader changes jobs, for example goes from group to district level or from one section to another they must do a renewal course. And yes all wood badge holders are part of the 1st Gilwell Park Scout Group
Yours John G. Dunbar, National Council Member.
Thanks John! I don't suppose you are planning on stopping by Mexico City any time in the next week or two? Would be great to meet you!
DeleteHi, I may be in MEX city the weekend of 1/2 June and I have National council Meeting the 15th in national HQ,
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John
I'm all for increasing community work - you've mentioned something like active support groups before right? And interestingly our DC Carol mentioned some project work the other day at our AGM (when I got my wood beads!!) that will be going on later this year at Aldwark. Apparently there was some quite bad flooding and some of the bank was washed away so it needs rebuilding. Might get involved in that I reckon...
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely! However, the operative point for me is that the projects should be actively reaching out into the community - Aldwark is great, but it is primarily a scout site an so the wider community doesn't feel the benefit. As an example, I helped one of the rovers yesterday to sort out recycling given to her by local schools, which she can sell to recycling companies for money which she then uses to help build toilets in the poorer areas of the city! Obviously in the UK we would need different focuses, but you get my point - it helps promote scouting's image in the community, and helps to get the young people more involved in said communities, which can only be a good thing!
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